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FonteTGDaily reported that a group of Nvidia customers are upset over the company's lack of final Vista drivers and are now threatening a class action lawsuit against the graphics card giant. The customers claim that the cards don't adequately work with Microsoft's newest operating system and feel that the company isn't being truthful about being "Vista Ready". One customer, who we can only name as 'Nathan', has even created a website nvidiaclassaction.org and is seeking legal help for a possible lawsuit.
Não é bem assim, felizmente.Newtomic Escreveu:Hihi, mas também sejamos sinceros quem é que vai comprar uma VGA Ultra-TOP para a por a funcionar numa porcaria de SO que actualmente é entre 15 a 25% + lento em TODOS os jogos que consegue jogar?
Viste o FEAR? E não te esqueças do OpenGL, que está tão mal que eles nem testaram.Newtomic Escreveu:Abaixo?!!!? Mas estás a ver as mesmas img's que eu, é que eu noto quase todos acima e não abaixo...
EDIT: Fui ver o link k deste e ai percebi o que querias dizer, humm sendo assim julgo que a AMD/ATi esteja a fazer um bom trabalho no que diz respeito a driver's.
Hazelnut Escreveu:I'd like to kick off a discussion about Windows Vista and see what attitudes other Codexer's have about adoption of the new MS OS. I've been using windows since 3.1 came out and the only version I've never used is ME, lucky escape.. I don't have any particular hatred for MS or Windows, but I do dislike their way of gaining market share. I currently run Windows 98, 2k (was just for work, but now so many games don't run on 98 ) & Ubuntu on my PC - so I'm still not an XP user at home.
I've not read much about Vista, but here are some of the things that concern me:
*DirectX 10 will only be on Vista. The biggie for gamers, and a huge deal potentially. I hate the idea of being forced to upgrade just because I want to play games, although given recent gameplay trends this may cease to be an issue...
* Protected Media Path, which is designed to seriously degrade the playback quality of any video and audio running on systems with hardware components not explicitly approved by Microsoft. WTF? I knew Vista would have DRM from the bottom up, but this is more than I expected! (read this)
* Huge system requirements. 1Gb not enough?
* Introduces a new markup language, called "XAML." This language seems designed to attack the existing Open Standard HTML and is ground-up dependent on Windows. MS said they were after control of the internet years back, is this their strategy?
* Many other attempts to lock users into MS tech. This is an interesting read.
* User does not have full control of their own OS!linky
My attitude a few months ago was that I might either upgrade to XP or possibly hold off for a couple of years and then go direct 2k->vista. The only thing I had a problem with was DX10 really, but now I think that there is no way I will ever want to move to Vista. I hate losing control and having corporations trying to gain control for profit.
I wonder how this will play out over the next few years.. will enough people end up stealth upgraded (buy new PCs etc) or don't care about any issues except is it the latest thing to run games that we all get forced to use it or be obsolete for games/internet/sharing docs/whatever... ?
Admiral jimbob Escreveu:I don't really think I want it. Hopefully there'll be user-made hackses to allow DX10 to run on XP - there's no legit reason it can't be done, is there?
Oarfish Escreveu:Lots, the underlying graphics system has been seriously reworked for vista. Multiple threads can use the GPU for a start..
KreideBein Escreveu:I'm pretty sure that the only reason that DX10 is Vista exclusive is because MS makes more money that way than if it were also released for XP.
Algures alguém Escreveu:Alongside the all-or-nothing approach of disabling output, Vista requires that any interface that provides high-quality output degrade the signal quality that passes through it if premium content is present. This is done through a “constrictor” that downgrades the signal to a much lower-quality one, then up- scales it again back to the original spec, but with a significant loss in quality. So if you're using an expensive new LCD display fed from a high- quality DVI signal on your video card and there's protected content present, the picture you're going to see will be, as the spec puts it, “slightly fuzzy”, a bit like a 10-year-old CRT monitor that you picked up for $2 at a yard sale (see the Quotes for real-world examples of this). In fact the specification specifically still allows for old VGA analog outputs, but even that's only because disallowing them would upset too many existing owners of analog monitors. In the future even analog VGA output will probably have to be disabled. The only thing that seems to be explicitly allowed is the extremely low-quality TV-out, provided that Macrovision is applied to it.
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Oarfish Escreveu:Sucks. But I pirate most of my movies and telivision (dont have a set) anyway, now I have a justification.
Sirbolt Escreveu:I went with the obsolete bit, except i'll probably upgrade as soon as there is some kind of crack or fix that disables/bypasses all that DRM nonsense. If it's at all possible, that is. If it isn't possible, well, let's just say i won't be buying any HD-movies. Ever.
Oarfish Escreveu:XAML is a declarative object markup language with a primary focus on windows forms objects and vector graphics. Not a replacement for HTML. It's a developer tool, not an attempt to pull an Internet explorer. If anything it affects flash's teeny market share for 'pretty' native application front ends.
Sirbolt Escreveu:is there any techie who can explain why it's such a huge performance hog? Is there actually any real benefit to this or is it just to show "spiffy" interface graphics that i don't give a shit about?
Oarfish Escreveu:It isn't, though the base memory requirement has increased, pushing some games out of the comfort zone for being able to run in 1 gig. There are teething problems with some game/driver combos .Get 2 gig of ram and you will mostly be fine.
Voss Escreveu:Nope. No reason to. My current system works for what I need it to, and there isn't any reason to pay to shift to the latest thingamabob. There also isn't any Vista-only software that I need or even want.
Sentenza Escreveu:but just out of curiosity what's the deal in a OS taking nearly 1 GB of RAM? I mean, actually I can run Linux (FC5) in graphical mode with Gnome and shit and it uses total ~ 90 MB
Voss Escreveu:Bloated code is the simple answer.
My theory, however involves stuffing a dozen+ 'user-friendly' applications into active memory, rather than make the user 'suffer' through a few seconds of loading time. Because clearly, lagging system performance over-all isn't something a user will notice (they'll get accustomed to that), but they'll whine and snivel and complain if apps they use occasionally take a touch longer to load.
Gamespot Escreveu:There will also be a new logo for "Games for Windows" on game packaging. To qualify, games must meet a set of guidelines--including easy install; compatibility with the Xbox 360 controller; Vista compatibility; and support for widescreen resolution, multicore, and multithreading.
MountainWest Escreveu:This can only mean good things for the future
Oarfish Escreveu:Holy shit, that rules out entire genres. Love to see you play a serious filght sim without a keyboard / joystick or any decent strategy game without a mouse.
Greatatlantic Escreveu:That is odd and I don't really believe it. For example, Company of Heroes is a "Games for Windows" product and I don't see how they got controller compatibility for that one. My guess is this one can be waived, unless you are already making your game compatible to logitech or other third party gamepads.
The Walkin' Dude Escreveu:And how do you expect us Eastern Europeans to upgrade for the newest shit? Its too expensive! But anyway, I dont much care. The only game Im mildly interested in is The Witcher. Im not going to upgrade just because I could run Xbox ports such as Halo or other crap.
Ou então vou para o Linux e acabo já com isto...pedropaulo Escreveu:È uma boa ideia. Eu vou fazer o mesmo com os jogos, afinal vou paga-los através dos custos de hardware.....
Ou então vou esperar uns meses ou anos até o Vista ser a norma de compro-o a um preço mais reduzido.